Boy, that was just outstanding. I think I have a new person to put on my list of favorite columnists...right up there with Matt Friedeman and Ann Coulter. :-)
You know, hunters also generally handle their own game after the kill. Yeah, sometimes a faithful dog does the retrieving, but it's the hunter who bags the bird.
Maybe women who kill their children for sport should have to handle their own "game," too.
Then the blood on their hands would actually be visible.
Jeez, it's that kind of language that you're using Tommy that makes for a "culture war". Do you really think these women "kill their children for sport"? You "wouldn't traumatize the dog" what are you saying about these women, anyway? I'm as opposed to abortion as anyone, but attacking the women who are having them isn't going to win the day. I understand the "sport" analogy is in the article... but still...
Did you read Mr. Adams' article? Did you catch the irony therein?
While I am certain you are correct that there aren't any women who kill their children for sport, we both know there are plenty who kill their unborn children for convenience (and plenty of men who share their guilt).
In his article, Mr. Adams said, "How does a) the accidental near-taking of human life compare with b) the actual (and intentional) taking of human life, in conjunction with recreational activity?
Whether your favorite sport is casual sex or quail hunting, the answer to this question is important. It is a given that the anti-gun lobby will try to use this accident to impose new restrictions on hunters and gun owners. But, rather than go after the hunters, I would insist that we place the following limitations on abortion. These restrictions will help foster gender equality - a goal I share with the American feminists."
Did you see the lines about casual sex being a sport & a recreational activity? That's the "sport" of which I was speaking. Of course sex is not a sport - it is a sacred gift from God. But it is treated as a sport by many people.
There are women who think nothing of having as many abortions as necessary so that their "sporting" chances are not diminished - and far too many men who think nothing of it as well.
I am sorry if I offended you - I never set out to offend anyone - but why is it off-base to speak in gruesome terms about the most gruesome practice on the planet?
My point was this - if women (and men) had to personally face the results of their "freedom of choice" by looking into what's left of the face of their murdered baby, perhaps there would be fewer murdered babies.
I know that not all women fit into the category of rabid pro-abortion feminists toward which Adams seems to be directing his comments. My comments were aimed in the same direction as his.
Reading my comments in context with his would perhaps reveal such.
By the way...we have been in the midst of a "culture war" for quite some time...and we are losing.
I did read all of Adam's article and while I could understand his point and his rhetoric... I must confess I don't understand this "culture war" in which you and so many other evangelicals are engaging. The only "war" I find the NT making reference to is a spiritual one. Most evangelicals take aim at "people" as if THEY were the demons themselves. I think the language we use reflect that mindset.
Who am I kidding? There's a whole following out there that believe that there's a demon to be exercised out of every "sinner" out there! Good luck with your war... I don't mean to offend either, I just haven't got my draft orders from God.
Actually, I'm not all that involved in the "culture war," meaning I suppose the war between historical revisionists and secular humanists (among others) and those who hold to the Judeo-Christian values upon which the nation was founded. I just happened to read Adams' piece and followed it to its logical conclusion. I do believe that abortion is an unspeakable abomination that we take way too much for granted.
I agree with you that the battle is a spiritual one.
I assure you, I consider myself "chief among sinners," to borrow a phrase, and it's when I look at the cross of Christ and see the depth of suffering that He was willing to endure on my behalf - taking the punishment for my crimes - even when I gave Him no thought, that my heart breaks.
It breaks for Him, and it breaks for those who yet hate Him without cause.
'Not called!' did you say? 'Not heard the call,' I think you should say. Put your ear down to the Bible, and hear him bid you go and pull sinners out of
the fire of sin. Put your ear down to the burdened, agonized heart of humanity, and listen to its pitiful wail for help. Go stand by the gates of hell, and
hear the damned entreat you to go to their father's house and bid their brothers and sisters, and servants and masters not to come there. And then look
Christ in the face, whose mercy you have professed to obey, and tell him whether you will join heart and soul and body and circumstances in the march to
publish his mercy to the world. (William Booth)
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Boy, that was just outstanding. I think I have a new person to put on my list of favorite columnists...right up there with Matt Friedeman and Ann Coulter. :-)
You know, hunters also generally handle their own game after the kill. Yeah, sometimes a faithful dog does the retrieving, but it's the hunter who bags the bird.
Maybe women who kill their children for sport should have to handle their own "game," too.
Then the blood on their hands would actually be visible.
Of course, I wouldn't traumatize the dog.
Jeez, it's that kind of language that you're using Tommy that makes for a "culture war". Do you really think these women "kill their children for sport"? You "wouldn't traumatize the dog" what are you saying about these women, anyway? I'm as opposed to abortion as anyone, but attacking the women who are having them isn't going to win the day. I understand the "sport" analogy is in the article... but still...
Anonymous -
Did you read Mr. Adams' article? Did you catch the irony therein?
While I am certain you are correct that there aren't any women who kill their children for sport, we both know there are plenty who kill their unborn children for convenience (and plenty of men who share their guilt).
In his article, Mr. Adams said, "How does a) the accidental near-taking of human life compare with b) the actual (and intentional) taking of human life, in conjunction with recreational activity?
Whether your favorite sport is casual sex or quail hunting, the answer to this question is important. It is a given that the anti-gun lobby will try to use this accident to impose new restrictions on hunters and gun owners. But, rather than go after the hunters, I would insist that we place the following limitations on abortion. These restrictions will help foster gender equality - a goal I share with the American feminists."
Did you see the lines about casual sex being a sport & a recreational activity? That's the "sport" of which I was speaking. Of course sex is not a sport - it is a sacred gift from God. But it is treated as a sport by many people.
There are women who think nothing of having as many abortions as necessary so that their "sporting" chances are not diminished - and far too many men who think nothing of it as well.
I am sorry if I offended you - I never set out to offend anyone - but why is it off-base to speak in gruesome terms about the most gruesome practice on the planet?
My point was this - if women (and men) had to personally face the results of their "freedom of choice" by looking into what's left of the face of their murdered baby, perhaps there would be fewer murdered babies.
I know that not all women fit into the category of rabid pro-abortion feminists toward which Adams seems to be directing his comments. My comments were aimed in the same direction as his.
Reading my comments in context with his would perhaps reveal such.
By the way...we have been in the midst of a "culture war" for quite some time...and we are losing.
No offense taken, Tommy.
I did read all of Adam's article and while I could understand his point and his rhetoric... I must confess I don't understand this "culture war" in which you and so many other evangelicals are engaging. The only "war" I find the NT making reference to is a spiritual one. Most evangelicals take aim at "people" as if THEY were the demons themselves. I think the language we use reflect that mindset.
Who am I kidding? There's a whole following out there that believe that there's a demon to be exercised out of every "sinner" out there! Good luck with your war... I don't mean to offend either, I just haven't got my draft orders from God.
Anonymous -
I am very glad I did not offend you.
Actually, I'm not all that involved in the "culture war," meaning I suppose the war between historical revisionists and secular humanists (among others) and those who hold to the Judeo-Christian values upon which the nation was founded. I just happened to read Adams' piece and followed it to its logical conclusion. I do believe that abortion is an unspeakable abomination that we take way too much for granted.
I agree with you that the battle is a spiritual one.
I assure you, I consider myself "chief among sinners," to borrow a phrase, and it's when I look at the cross of Christ and see the depth of suffering that He was willing to endure on my behalf - taking the punishment for my crimes - even when I gave Him no thought, that my heart breaks.
It breaks for Him, and it breaks for those who yet hate Him without cause.
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